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 Posted: Aug 9, 2020 01:55PM
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Glad you got it sorted. 

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Aug 8, 2020 01:31PM
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those guys work miracles at the body shop.

wouldn't know it happened if i didn't know it happened.

car ran straight up normal temp on the ride home in the 100+ Texas heat with the new radiator.

thanks again for all the help folks!

 Posted: Aug 3, 2020 02:26PM
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new radiator is in with one piece cowl. i had to shim it up just a touch as to not hit the fan blade.  brake pipe replaced and new rubber lines.  Off to the body shop.  They said it didn't look bad.  just dented  the rear panel and boot lid a bit.  

thanks for all the info fellas!

 Posted: Jul 27, 2020 10:41AM
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Sorry i missed your post but glad you found everything you need you will be pleased with the later set up it makes life easier.
There is no by pass hose on A+ 1275 engines.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Jul 24, 2020 05:55AM
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going with the mkiii type rad.  parts should be here in a few days. was able to pick up a one piece cowl with all the mounting brackets cheap on ebay  It should make life simpler. 

waiting on the new brake new pipe.  they don't seem to have any in town, Austin Texas, with the british fittings?  The ones hanging at autozone are slightly different it seems.  

Then off to the body shop. I hear those guys can do miracles.  Got a decent bash on the rear end.  Might need a new boot lid if anyones got one laying around, although the body man said he could probably straighten it out. 

thanks for all the help fellas.  

 Posted: Jul 24, 2020 03:21AM
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I just took a screen shot of my digital copy of a Haynes manual. Since the inner fender shroud/box has been removed I would do as Malcolm suggested and go with the one piece later style radiator shroud. Here's the photo of what it looks like and the parts you'll need.#10 one piece shroud, #20 lower mounting bracket, #14 lower radiator hose, #26 upper radiator hose for 1275, the upper mounting bracket (no number shown) that goes from the thermostat housing to the radiator for 1275, plus all the bolts to mount these items. You could "Jerry-rig" the mounting brackets, but the last person who did that to your car caused ?much damage. If you're going to do the job you might as well do it right. Also, since you'll have it all apart I'd suggest changing the water pump, thermostat, and that pesky little hose that goes between the head and the water pump. If you'd ever replaced that hose on the side of the road when it failed you'd certainly understand. Good luck. BTW, do you have a Haynes manual or any repair manual? Well crap, seems my photo/screen shot is t[ big to drop here. Please email me and I will send you the photo. Cheers, Hugh [email protected]

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 Posted: Jul 24, 2020 02:44AM
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What part of Texas are you in? There may be someone close by that has the stuff you need and could help put it back together. Mini guys are helpful like that.

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 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 03:23PM
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your brake line is supposed to be fastened to the front subframe with clips. Look in an owner's manual or parts manual. There's no way the rad can rub the brake line unless something isn't right.  Even when you use an AA rad, it won't fit well. I imagine the bottom bracket was modded to make the rad fit. And I believe the outlet on the AA rad is in the wrong place (top hose).  Get a mini rad, and mini lower bracket for your engine. Use a MK 1 , 2 piece shroud. 

If your engine runs hot, make sure it's in tune first before dealing with cooling issues.  Also when doing this rad job, a good time to put in a new thermostat and maybe flush the block.
yes.
 I've already fitted the cowl to the new radiator. the holes line up.  i just have to rivet the shroud back together where it was cut.
The next problem- i think i can just extend the old AA bracket with a piece of sheet metal to make the bottom bracket.

the brake line rubbed to AA radiator because it's so much bigger. Until I realized it I wondered how in the world this brake line was supposed to fit.
If you are not building a show winning Mini you would be far better switching to the MK III one piece shroud and just remove the cowl completely as they did to later Mini's.
This way with the plastic fan you can remove the radiator complete with the shroud in 10 minutes instead of busting your knuckles on that two piece MK I set up.
Thanks Malsal.  That sounds like a great idea since my current mounting brackets have been rigged together.
If you don't mind, can you let me know what parts I'll need to order for the conversion.  I already have to radiator.
I just need to know which brackets  and cowl to order. I will need top and bottom 
thanks!

More info
1965 mini cooper mk1
1275cc AA engine

 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 03:08PM
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Originally Posted by Minimike1
your brake line is supposed to be fastened to the front subframe with clips. Look in an owner's manual or parts manual. There's no way the rad can rub the brake line unless something isn't right.  Even when you use an AA rad, it won't fit well. I imagine the bottom bracket was modded to make the rad fit. And I believe the outlet on the AA rad is in the wrong place (top hose).  Get a mini rad, and mini lower bracket for your engine. Use a MK 1 , 2 piece shroud. 

If your engine runs hot, make sure it's in tune first before dealing with cooling issues.  Also when doing this rad job, a good time to put in a new thermostat and maybe flush the block.
yes.
 I've already fitted the cowl to the new radiator. the holes line up.  i just have to rivet the shroud back together where it was cut.
The next problem- i think i can just extend the old AA bracket with a piece of sheet metal to make the bottom bracket.

the brake line rubbed to AA radiator because it's so much bigger. Until I realized it I wondered how in the world this brake line was supposed to fit.
If you are not building a show winning Mini you would be far better switching to the MK III one piece shroud and just remove the cowl completely as they did to later Mini's.
This way with the plastic fan you can remove the radiator complete with the shroud in 10 minutes instead of busting your knuckles on that two piece MK I set up.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 02:11PM
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Originally Posted by Minimike1
your brake line is supposed to be fastened to the front subframe with clips. Look in an owner's manual or parts manual. There's no way the rad can rub the brake line unless something isn't right.  Even when you use an AA rad, it won't fit well. I imagine the bottom bracket was modded to make the rad fit. And I believe the outlet on the AA rad is in the wrong place (top hose).  Get a mini rad, and mini lower bracket for your engine. Use a MK 1 , 2 piece shroud. 

If your engine runs hot, make sure it's in tune first before dealing with cooling issues.  Also when doing this rad job, a good time to put in a new thermostat and maybe flush the block.
yes.
 I've already fitted the cowl to the new radiator. the holes line up.  i just have to rivet the shroud back together where it was cut.
The next problem- i think i can just extend the old AA bracket with a piece of sheet metal to make the bottom bracket.

the brake line rubbed to AA radiator because it's so much bigger. Until I realized it I wondered how in the world this brake line was supposed to fit.

 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 01:42PM
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your brake line is supposed to be fastened to the front subframe with clips. Look in an owner's manual or parts manual. There's no way the rad can rub the brake line unless something isn't right.  Even when you use an AA rad, it won't fit well. I imagine the bottom bracket was modded to make the rad fit. And I believe the outlet on the AA rad is in the wrong place (top hose).  Get a mini rad, and mini lower bracket for your engine. Use a MK 1 , 2 piece shroud. 

If your engine runs hot, make sure it's in tune first before dealing with cooling issues.  Also when doing this rad job, a good time to put in a new thermostat and maybe flush the block.

 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 12:49PM
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You should be able to get a Mini shroud and lower and upper brackets. The rad you bought might even fit the Mini shroud. You don't want to use the Austin America rad. Modern rads are much more efficient.

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Kindof , if it aint broke., dont fixit...

 Mabye improve it and clean it up = but the AA rad is a touch larger for some more water capcity .. finding and sourcing original Mk1 items is doable but may be more troublesome.


An Upper thermostat housing will be needed
 New upper rad hose new
more brackets and cowels.
 might as well replace lower hoses too.
how about that water pump?   refresh

Oh the can of worms!

 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 12:30PM
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The shroud (cowl) on the inner fender is not necessary. 
I see what you mean now.  The PO built a bracket for the austin America rad.  Looks like I'll have to built a bracket too to go back.

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The shroud (cowl) on the inner fender is not necessary. 
the bottom is cut out.  
I think I need to at least put a piece of sheet metal there for the rad to rest on/bolt to.

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The shroud (cowl) on the inner fender is not necessary. 

 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 11:02AM
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I Believe your removed radiator or Perhaps your whole car setup is from a Canadian SMOG Spec mini... (has a large air pump in the way) and they installed a different radiator for fitting the pump from the factory

They moved the outlet to the rear. attached Picture from the web of that setup.

You can find another Rad like that ( not easily found i dont think)   convert your whole setup to a proper early MK 1  ( you will require new shrounds and mounts)

There is a chance that rad is from an Austin America used for this mini application ( I am not certain)
yes. That looks like it.  The engine is from an Austin America, so perhaps they just brought the radiator along as well. They used the original mini 
cowl, but cut it up to fit the America rad. I think i can reuse it if I go original mini.  The problem is they cut up the wing shroud so the bigger rad would fit.  But I think I can bolt in some sheet metal to make it work again.

Thanks for the info

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I Believe your removed radiator or Perhaps your whole car setup is from a Canadian SMOG Spec mini... (has a large air pump in the way) and they installed a different radiator for fitting the pump from the factory

They moved the outlet to the rear. attached Picture from the web of that setup.

You can find another Rad like that ( not easily found i dont think)   convert your whole setup to a proper early MK 1  ( you will require new shrounds and mounts)

There is a chance that rad is from an Austin America used for this mini application ( I am not certain)

 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 09:29AM
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Disaster stuck when I finally lost brake pressure. I won't get into it because it's too depressing (body work will be needed).

But to the point.  My brake pipe wore through by rubbing against the radiator.  

After trying to fit a new brake pipe I found it impossible without taking the radiator out.  When I went to fit the new radiator (i bought 3 years back)  i found the new radiator to be physically smaller AND the top spout coming out the opposite side (which is all i can find for sale)

 The old radiator/cowl  seemed to be jankily put together.  

I might start form scratch on the cowl. which cowl do I need for the new rad in a mk1?

Had anyone seen the older (behind) radiator?  Should I order a new cowl and start over with my newer radiator?

1965 Mk1